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FRED
09-16-06, 10:22 PM
http://www.oxfordpreservation.org.uk/news/debtors.jpgA Modest Proposal: The Free Market Solution to the US Household Debt Problem–Debtors’ Prisons

By Jane Burns

September 17, 2006

As the real estate bubble deflates and credit card interest inflates, it’s time to consider a dynamic new engine for America’s service economy—debtors’ prisons, the next logical step in a free-market economy in which easy credit has freed more us from the burden of saving and allowed us to experience “the good life.” But unfortunately many of us have failed to take responsibility for our financial choices. We borrowed too much and then declared bankruptcy, blithely erasing our obligations and leaving our lenders holding the bag.

Concerned for the perilous position of lenders and their shareholders after hundreds of billions of dollars were lent to millions of households with limited savings and assets, Congress passed The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. Under the act, many debtors who cringe every time the phone rings will no longer be able to get a “fresh start” with a Chapter 7 bankruptcy. If these debtors make more than their state’s median income, they will have to declare a Chapter 13 bankruptcy, which requires them to repay debts as they continue to earn.

Some of the bankrupt will do the right thing under Chapter 13 and pay what they owe, perhaps for the rest of their lives. But others, predictably, will not. They will shirk their debts simply by ceasing to earn. “You can’t get blood from a stone,” they will mutter to themselves.

Consider, for instance, the many American homeowners now struggling to make rising monthly payments on their adjustable rate mortgages, or those who took out second mortgages in the expectation of continually rising home values. If they have a financial setback and can’t make their payments, they may lose their homes. And if, because of falling real estate prices, what they owe exceeds the value of their homes, their problems are compounded because they have a so-called underwater mortgage.

Before bankruptcy reform, consumers could cure underwater mortgage debt in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy. But that’s not so easy anymore, thanks to the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. Many will have to keep paying off underwater mortgages on homes in which they no longer live. Meanwhile they will need to be taken in by friends or family, or rent shelter.

Not unreasonably, many landlords will not rent to those who have recently gone through foreclosure or bankruptcy. Finding an affordable rental unit may be even more difficult in metropolitan areas where the recent widespread conversion of apartments to condominiums has great reduced the available stock of rental housing. And since many debtors unable to obtain rental housing will also have lost the cozy vehicles in which they might otherwise have lived, and lack friends or family to take them in, a considerable number will become homeless.

Some homeless debtors with strong work ethics will persevere in earning a legal living and servicing their debt. But others will engage in “underground” cash-only economic activities such as begging and thus avoid attachment of their wages. The availability of homeless shelters, where debtors may come and go as they please, plus the provision of free nourishment in many municipal parks, will encourage this irresponsible behavior.

But why should homeless debtors loaf in shelters and parks when they can be working off their debt in prison, contributing to the economy, while also creating thousands of badly needed jobs? The weepy-wipers who warn of “social chaos” as the noose of falling real estate prices and bankruptcy reform tightens in America fail to understand that free markets thrive on “creative destruction,” a concept introduced by economist Joseph Schumpeter in 1942. The free market always has the answer. In short, from the ashes of ten million ruined American households, a thousand debtors’ prisons can arise to carry the economy forward inexorably to its next stage of rapid expansion.

Debtors’ prisons have a strong historical track record. Although Charles Dickens railed against such prisons because his father was often in one, they helped propel England’s Industrial Revolution. People frightened of them worked hard and paid their debts. It’s no coincidence that England lost its world dominance not long after abolishing them in 1869.

Today in America, debtors’ prisons can be the spark plugs our economic engine needs to keep our economic engine cranking full speed. Just picture it—in blighted areas nationwide where Wal-Marts have killed off local small businesses and manufacturing has died, shareholder-owned private prison and hospitality companies can construct hundreds of debtors’ detention centers. New motels and restaurants will spring up to accommodate visitors.

And inside these prisons, “fresh start” programs will be available for those willing to work. Web-savvy debtor-prisoners will be employed to develop web sites that offer new credit products for those still on the outside, others in call centers where gruff-voiced debtors can place demand calls to those in arrears, while those who know how to work with their hands can stamp out millions of fresh credit cards, while yet others can stuff envelopes to help fulfill the more than six billion credit card solicitations that need to be sent to US households every year. And those who wish to labor outdoors can remove litter from our roadways. You’ll seem them wearing orange jumpsuits with a huge “D” on the back.

Clearly, debtors’ prisons will be a jobs powerhouse—tens of thousands of stable jobs will be created annually in sectors including construction, food service and security. These new jobs will help replace those lost in manufacturing as well as those likely to start diminishing in real estate-related activities, which has been responsible for over 40 percent of new jobs in recent years. “The business of America is business,” said Calvin Coolidge, U.S. President from 1923 to 1929. The business of tomorrow is indentured servitude.

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Christoph von Gamm
09-17-06, 02:55 AM
Clearly, debtors’ prisons will be a jobs powerhouse—tens of thousands of stable jobs will be created annually in sectors including construction, food service and security. These new jobs will help replace those lost in manufacturing as well as those likely to start diminishing in real estate-related activities, which has been responsible for over 40 percent of new jobs in recent years. “The business of America is business,” said Calvin Coolidge, U.S. President from 1923 to 1929. The business of tomorrow is indentured servitude.



I am not sure wether this is now a satiric commentary or the true opinion. But maybe I'm too Swiss-cultivated for this. Already now this principle works quite well as most crime acts come from property delicts (more or less) meaning people who see it as their best opportunity to deprive other from their property by illegal means and therefore getting punished through prison sentences. Debt might simply be charged higher if it cannot be repaid as some people might consider this behaviour as fraudulent - and in fact often people have been lying on their financial statements applying for a loan - ... so in essence, this thought is no news at all.

But the misleading thought is that this prison industry would generate extra jobs. It will of course be with special hotellry included and meal cuisines, not necessarily gourmet temples, but mostly the jobs that are then offered by the prisons to the outside are subsidised by the taxpayers - means that those who are out of prison and pay taxes on their jobs have to fund jobs that compete with VERY LOW WAGES against those who offer products and services at reasonably rates and get taxed against it. In essence this means that the prison companies have all incentives in the world, at the other side those outside prison have to even fund their competition. Super. In turn this then generates even more pressure on debtladen entrepreneurs who then might turn into prison jailmates...

Already now in some countries including the U.S. and Italy there are call centres installed in prisons who then sell travel destinations. Imagine this: A person sentenced to a 10 year stay has to sell then a nice trip to the Bermudas...

Jeff
09-17-06, 07:11 AM
Very Swift, Jane.

jk
09-17-06, 09:20 AM
very swift, jane. ha.

i love it. also don't forget that along with work for the prisoners there will be jobs for guards and administrators. an important concern, however, is raised in this post:

But the misleading thought is that this prison industry would generate extra jobs. It will of course be with special hotellry included and meal cuisines, not necessarily gourmet temples, but mostly the jobs that are then offered by the prisons to the outside are subsidised by the taxpayers - means that those who are out of prison and pay taxes on their jobs have to fund jobs that compete with VERY LOW WAGES against those who offer products and services at reasonably rates and get taxed against it. In essence this means that the prison companies have all incentives in the world, at the other side those outside prison have to even fund their competition. Super. In turn this then generates even more pressure on debtladen entrepreneurs who then might turn into prison jailmates...
indeed competition from low wage prison labor as well as increased taxes could be a problem. the underlying question is whether debtor prisons could generate enough income to become self-supporting. if yes, this will undercut non-prison suppliers of goods and services. if no, the prisons will have to be subsidized by higher taxes. in both these possibilities, however, the non-prison economic actors will be squeezed, forcing more and more of them into debt and bankruptcy, further increasing the prison population and the demand for more prisons.

debtor prisons will thus grow to occupy a greater and greater part of the economy, becoming the true growth engine of the u.s. economy. labor compensation can be kept low enough that u.s. workers will finally be able to compete head-on with workers in china, india, malaysia and so on!

as the prison economy comes to dominate the u.s. economy, taking in more and more economic activity, it will cease to be necessary to have traditional-looking prisons. why have walls when the whole country is essentially part of the prison economy?

prisoners will be tied to their local prison economy and unable to relocate without permission of the prison superintendent. these superintendents might want to arrange reciprocal transfers of prisoners with other other prisons in order to obtain prisoners with locally needed skills, similar to the ways that sports teams trade players. prisoners will be forbidden to participate in economic transactions without permission, including local relocation, change in job, marriage and so forth. the superintendant, or lord, of the local prison should not be too demanding of special favors or rights in order to grant his permission. noblesse oblige.

zmas28
09-17-06, 11:27 AM
There's some creative thinking!
How would layoffs (right-sizing) of "employees" be handled in uncertain times? Also, with the globalization backdrop & "real estate" arbitrage, would there be pressure to outsource debtors to faroff lands?

metalman
09-17-06, 01:08 PM
There's some creative thinking!
How would layoffs (right-sizing) of "employees" be handled in uncertain times? Also, with the globalization backdrop & "real estate" arbitrage, would there be pressure to outsource debtors to faroff lands?

Two debtor prisoners sit side by side at machines stamping out credit cards.

Debt Prisoner 243986: "How'd you get here?"

Debt Prisoner 315863: "I used to work for Ford. How about you?"

Debt Prisoner 243986: "Um, I was a male stripper."

Debt Prisoner 315863: "Really? Let me see your moves."

Debt Prisoner 243986: "Um, maybe later."

Debt Prisoner 315863: "Aw c'mon? Show us your moves."

Debt Prisoner 243986: "I don't think so."

Debt Prisoner 315863: "You're lying. I don't believe you. You worked for a bank, didn't you? Didn't you!? Hey, guys! We got a f*cking banker over here! I bet you were a... MORTGAGE LENDER, weren't you!"

Bagged, Debt Prisoner 243986 will not be having a pleasant stay at the prison.

metalman
09-20-06, 08:55 AM
hey, Jane. check this out! debtors' prisons... already here!

Poverty keeps woman jailed, lawsuit says
Day job off-site not enough for expenses and $705 fine

By CARLOS CAMPOS / ccampos@ajc.com
Published on: 09/19/06

All Ora Lee Hurley has to do to get out of prison is pay a $705 fine, according to her attorney.

But every month, she pays the Georgia Department of Corrections $600 for room and board and spends $76 a month for a MARTA card, laundry and some meals. As a result, Hurley has stayed locked up more than eight months past her original 120-day sentence, according to a lawsuit filed Monday by the Southern Center for Human Rights seeking her release.

"This is another debtor's prison case," said Sarah Geraghty, a Southern Center lawyer. "This is a situation where if this woman was able to write a check for the amount of the fine, she would be out of there. And because she can't, she's still in custody. It's as simple as that."

Hurley is an inmate held at the Gateway Diversion Center in Atlanta. She leaves the center for work five days a week at the K&K Soul Food restaurant on Donald L. Hollowell Parkway, earning $6.50 an hour.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2006/09/18/0919prison.html

Sapiens
11-04-06, 05:40 PM
How about for a defense pointing out the fraud of Fractional Reserve Banking. People like the author of this article are what enables the "learned" perpetuate their frauds on the ignorant.

-Sapiens

spunky
11-05-06, 03:43 AM
How about for a defense pointing out the fraud of Fractional Reserve Banking. People like the author of this article are what enables the "learned" perpetuate their frauds on the ignorant.

-Sapiens



Ditto ditto ditto--- :D