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bart
05-18-08, 05:49 PM
Former Federal Reserve governor, Robert Heller, had this to say in the Wall Street Journal on October 27, 1989:

"The stock market is certainly not too big for the Fed to handle. The foreign exchange and government securities markets are vastly larger. Daily trading volume in the New York foreign exchange market is $130 billion. The daily volume for Treasury Securities is about $110 billion. The combined value of daily equity trading on the New York Exchange, the American Stock Exchange and the NASDAQ over-the-counter market ranges between $7 billion and $10 billion."
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"An appropriate institution should be charged with the job of preventing chaos in the market: the Federal Reserve....The Fed already buys and sells foreign exchange to prevent disorderly conditions in foreign exchange markets. The Fed has assumed a similar responsibility in the market for government securities. The stock market is the only major market without a marketmaker of unchallenged liquidity or a buyer of last resort." ... "The Fed could support the stock market directly by buying market averages in the futures market, thus stabilizing the market as a whole."

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“Owing to persistent advances in information and computing technologies, the structure of our financial institutions is continuously changing, I trust for the better. But that evolution in financial structure has also meant that supervision and regulation must be continually changing in order to respond adequately to these developments. In today's markets, for example, there is an increased reliance on private counterparty surveillance as the primary means of financial control. Governments supplement private surveillance when they judge that market imperfections could lead to sub-optimal economic performance.”
Source (http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2002/200209252/default.htm), Alan Greenspan speech in 2002

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"...the Federal Reserve has the capacity to operate in domestic money markets to maintain interest rates at a level consistent with our economic goals” Ben Bernanke, Fed Chairman, March 26th 2007 to the Senate Banking Committee.

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"There is some evidence that central bank communications can help to shape public expectations of future policy actions and that asset purchases in large volume by a central bank would be able to affect the price or yield of the targeted asset."

Source: (http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2004/200448/200448pap.pdf) Monetary Policy Alternatives at the Zero Bound, Ben Bernanke


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"When we moved on February 4th, I think our expectation was that we would prick the bubble in the equity markets. What in fact occurred is that, as evidence of the dramatic shift in the economic outlook began to emerge after we moved and long-term rates began to move up, we were also clearly getting a major upward increase in expectations of corporate earnings. While the stock market went down after our actions on February 4th, it has gone down really quite marginally on net over this period. So what has occurred is that while this capital gains bubble in all financial assets had to come down, instead of the decline being concentrated in the stock area, it shifted over into the bond area. But the effects are the same. These are major capital losses, which have required very dramatic changes in the actions and activities on the part of individuals and institutions.

"So the question is, having very consciously and purposely tried to break the bubble and upset the markets in order to sort of break the cocoon of capital gains speculation, we are now in a position—having done that and in a sense succeeded perhaps more than we had intended—to try to restore some degree of confidence in the System."
-- Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Federal Reserve

Source: (http://www.federalreserve.gov/fomc/transcripts/1994/940322Meeting.pdf) Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting minutes from March 22, 1994
(emphasis mine)

Finster
05-24-08, 09:36 AM
Gosbank

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosbank), the free encyclopedia

"Gosbank" (Russian: Госбанк, Государственный банк СССР, Gosudarstvenny bank SSSR—the USSR State Bank) was the central bank of the Soviet Union and the only bank whatsoever in the entire Union from the 1930s until the year 1987. "Gosbank" was one of the three Soviet economic authorities, the other two being "Gosplan" (the State Planning Committee) and "Gossnab" (the State Committee for Material Technical Supply).

The Soviet state used "Gosbank", primarily, as a tool to impose centralized control upon industry in general, using bank balances and transaction histories to monitor the activity of individual concerns and their compliance with Plans and directives. "Gosbank" did not act as a commercial bank in regard to the profit motive. It acted, theoretically, as an instrument of government policy. Instead of independently and impartially assessing the creditworthiness of the borrower, "Gosbank" would provide loan funds to favored individuals, groups and industries" as directed by the central government. [1]

As the Union neared economic collapse, and also as part of Mikhail Gorbachev's perestroika program, other banks were formed, including; "Promstroybank" (USSR Bank of Industrial Construction), "Zhilstoybank"(USSR Bank of Residential Construction), "Agrobank" (USSR Agricultural Bank), "Vneshekonombank" (USSR Foreign Trade Bank), and "Sberbank" (USSR Savings Bank). "Sberbank" continues to this day as one of Russia's largest banks, retaining senior "Gosbank" personnel and most of the present Russian government's banking business.

bart
05-24-08, 10:08 AM
Gosbank

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosbank), the free encyclopedia

"Gosbank" (Russian: Госбанк, Государственный банк СССР, Gosudarstvenny bank SSSR—the USSR State Bank) was the central bank of the Soviet Union and the only bank whatsoever in the entire Union from the 1930s until the year 1987.
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Good one.

I might add that there's no manipulation or control of gold going on by the European Central Bank (ECB) either, as proven by the "small" -.71 correlation between the gold price and ECB gold buys & sells.


Short term:
http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ecb_weekly_gold.png






Longer term:
http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ecb_weekly_gold_long_term.png



There's an article on my site from early 2007 covering the area, which includes an addendum correcting my original
understanding.

FRED
05-25-08, 05:07 PM
Good one.

I might add that there's no manipulation or control of gold going on by the European Central Bank (ECB) either, as proven by the "small" -.71 correlation between the gold price and ECB gold buys & sells.


Short term:
http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ecb_weekly_gold.png






Longer term:
http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ecb_weekly_gold_long_term.png



There's an article on my site from early 2007 covering the area, which includes an addendum correcting my original
understanding.

http://www.itulip.com/images/gobankteamMED.jpg Massive new Gosbank USA formed, market soars

Today the GSEs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac merged with the Federal Reserve Bank, the US Treasury Department, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and JP Morgan Chase to form Gosbank USA. The DJIA rose 280 points on the news.

Capping a year of crisis in the credit markets and global financial system that led to the nationalization of banks in Europe and England, the US today consolidated and merged ownership of the nation’s largest banks under co-chairmen former Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and former Treasury Secretary and ex-head of investment banking giant Goldman Sachs Henry Paulson. “We made lemons out of lemon-aid and turned a terrible crisis for the US economy and the American people into a golden opportunity to expand the power and reach of the State,” said Paulson in a speech made today from the new headquarters of Gosbank USA on Wall Street, the new administrative center for several recently created US government planning authorities, including Gosfin USA, the State Central Financial Regulatory Authority, and Gosrec USA, the State Central Housing Reconstruction Authority. more... (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32553#post32553)

bart
05-25-08, 05:13 PM
http://www.itulip.com/images/gobankteamMED.jpg Massive new Gosbank USA formed, market soars

Today the GSEs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac merged with the Federal Reserve Bank, the US Treasury Department, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and JP Morgan Chase to form Gosbank USA. The DJIA rose 280 points on the news.

Capping a year of crisis in the credit markets and global financial system that led to the nationalization of banks in Europe and England, the US today consolidated and merged ownership of the nation’s largest banks under co-chairmen former Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and former Treasury Secretary and ex-head of investment banking giant Goldman Sachs Henry Paulson. “We made lemons out of lemon-aid and turned a terrible crisis for the US economy and the American people into a golden opportunity to expand the power and reach of the State,” said Paulson in a speech made today from the new headquarters of Gosbank USA on Wall Street, the new administrative center for several recently created US government planning authorities, including Gosfin USA, the State Central Financial Regulatory Authority, and Gosrec USA, the State Central Housing Reconstruction Authority. more... (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32553#post32553)


The actual members of the FOMC, without their disguises:

http://www.nowandfutures.com/grins/FOMC_alien_group.jpg

babbittd
05-27-08, 10:27 PM
Move Over, Adam Smith: The Visible Hand of Uncle Sam (http://www.sprott.com/pdf/TheVisibleHand.pdf) (.pdf)

John Embry - Andrew Hepburn - Sprott Assett Management - August 2005

This report examines information indicating that the U.S. government has surreptitiously intervened in the American stock market...

babbittd
06-09-09, 05:07 AM
bump to the top

ThePythonicCow
06-09-09, 11:28 AM
Move Over, Adam Smith: The Visible Hand of Uncle Sam (http://www.sprott.com/pdf/TheVisibleHand.pdf) (.pdf)

John Embry - Andrew Hepburn - Sprott Assett Management - August 2005

This report examines information indicating that the U.S. government has surreptitiously intervened in the American stock market...


I cannot find this report online anymore. I see mentions of it elsewhere, such as in a summary of these matters in the article Manipulation: How Financial Markets Really Work, by Stephen Lendman (May 30, 2009, 9:39 am) (http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/manipulation-how-financial-markets-really-work/).

bart
06-09-09, 11:40 AM
http://www.nowandfutures.com/large/TheVisibleHand.pdf

phirang
06-09-09, 11:44 AM
The Japanese were ready to print Yen to buy the Nikkei, before the US went ahead and did it for them. :D

ThePythonicCow
06-09-09, 12:51 PM
http://www.nowandfutures.com/large/TheVisibleHand.pdf

Gracias mucho

babbittd
06-09-09, 05:25 PM
Bart posted a link to the report, but if you're curious it is still up on the Sprott website, it is just that they rearranged things a bit.

http://www.sprott.com/Docs/SpecialReports/08_2005_TheVisibleHand.pdf