Hey Folks,
First post here, I have been following this site since last summer and based upon the clarity of the arguments provided here, I purchased my first substantial gold investment via the GLD ETF back in August.
Thanks to all for the sage advice and kudos to the analytical skills of the itulip members. Many predictions have been spot on and I am looking forward to more sound recommendations.
My question to any itulip member would be what is your opinion on expanding a portion of a portfolio into this new ETF UGA.
Fire away with opinions, I have yet to find any recommendations that gas prices will fall, and the sentiment appears positive for appreciation here and other places like the oil drum website.
And EJ if you are reading this take care of Mega, his promiscuous
posting along with others makes this site very worthwhile.
Hm, hadn't heard about this new ETF. It doesn't seem like retail gasoline prices in the US are going down anytime soon, they've been on a slow but steady incline since 1999 or so.
The ratio between crude oil spot price and retail gas price is up around what has been an unsustainable spike point in the past. This could be resolved either by lower oil prices or higher gas prices. With crude at $100 or so, gasoline would have to be over $5 / gallon to bring the ratio back down to the "normal" 15 to 20 range. But perhaps this divergence is here to stay, I don't know. It has to be putting a hurt on companies involved in refining and distributing gasoline.
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It's possible that recession could reduce demand enough to lower gasoline prices, but I doubt it would be significant if your investment horizon is long-term. The only other price risk I could think of would be the government stepping in to subsidize the retail cost of gasoline in some way, such as opening up the "strategic reserves" as I believe they did or at least threatened to do post-Katrina. Again though, I would expect these to have only a temporary effect.
Found a SeekingAlpha article (http://www.itulip.com/article/66321-first-gasoline-etf-comes-to-market?source=feed) about UGA. Looks like the fund tracks futures contracts on gasoline, rather than actual retail pump prices. I don't know how much difference there is.
But his staff doesn't wait until the contracts expire. Instead, they roll from one contract to the next within two weeks of expiration. That exposes the funds to the forces of backwardation and contango. In fact, the gasoline markets are currently in very strong contango: the March contract is valued at just $2.56/gallon, while the April contract costs $2.72/gallon. If those prices hold, the fund (or any investor) rolling from the March to April contract will effectively lose money on the deal.I've had to read the definitions of "backwardation" and "contango" before but I never remember them. They sound like dance moves, so if you're an awkward white guy like me, they might give you some trouble.:D
EDIT: Oh what... now SeekingAlpha links get mangled to itulip.com/whatever-the-link too? C'mon.
Fine. Here's the entire article.
Also, http://www.unitedstatesgasolinefund.com/
As the price of gasoline goes up at the pump, don't get angry. The developers of a new exchange-traded fund want you to get even.<!--more-->
The United States Gasoline Fund (AMEX: UGA) opened trading Tuesday with a mandate making it the first ETF to directly track gas prices. UGA is marketed by Victoria Bay Asset Management.
"It's natural to increase investors' choices by bringing out a gasoline fund," said John Hyland, the firm's chief investment officer. "We're not suggesting it's a hot fuel and worth investing in at this point. We just feel that over the long-run, gasoline is a major commodity and it deserves representation."
Along with oil, natural gas and heating oil, gasoline is one of the four major energy commodities traded in the U.S., and Victoria Bay either offers or is developing an ETF tied to each commodity. The company was first-to-market in crude and natural gas ETFs, with the United States Oil Fund (AMEX: USO) launching in April 2006 and the United States Natural Gas Fund (AMEX: UNG) launching nearly a year later. It has also filed for a heating oil fund, which is expected to launch soon.
"We only deal with one commodity in each fund," Hyland said. "Our goal with each fund is to match in percentage terms the daily movements of each commodity's futures."
With gasoline, for example, the fund tracks futures contracts on the New York Mercantile Exchange. "We're always watching whatever contract is about to expire next—the closest one to expiration," Hyland said. "Those are called front-month contracts."
But his staff doesn't wait until the contracts expire. Instead, they roll from one contract to the next within two weeks of expiration. That exposes the funds to the forces of backwardation and contango. In fact, the gasoline markets are currently in very strong contango: the March contract is valued at just $2.56/gallon, while the April contract costs $2.72/gallon. If those prices hold, the fund (or any investor) rolling from the March to April contract will effectively lose money on the deal.
There are funds that aim to mitigate these impacts—Victoria Bay, for instance, offers the United States 12 Month Oil Fund (AMEX: USL (http://www.itulip.com/symbol/usl)). It spreads its investments across the next 12 months of oil contracts, with the goal of mitigating the impact of contango.
But the new gas fund is straight-up. Like all commodity funds, however, UGA will be buoyed by interest income. You only have to put up a portion of your cash to buy a full futures position, so the funds are able to invest their collateral cash in Treasuries.
The annual expense ratio of UGA is expected to wind up at 0.69%. Victoria Bay is registered as a commodity pool operator and has $1.1 billion in assets under management as of December 31, 2007.
"Innovation is at the core of the Amex identity and UGA, the first fund to follow gasoline, is a welcome addition to our product lineup," said Scott Ebner, senior vice president of Amex's ETF marketplace in a statement.
Why might it fall?
I have heard inventory levels are very high - anyone have any hard data?
Plus the obvious price rationing + recessionary demand destruction.
Here's a chart of US Mogas inventories by month over some years. You'll see that the stocks increase going into the spring and are drawn down during the summer driving season each year. Note the recent stock levels compared to historical data (go back 20 years, when consumption was probably a lot lower than today) - you decide if inventories are "very high".
Crude pricing going into this recession is going to be partly a function of how aggresively (if ?) these inventories get rebuilt.
The recent inventory trend is up, as is usual at this time of year and the most recent weekly data (for week ended 22 Feb) shows inventories at 116,600 thousand barrels.
You can get more data than you ever imagined could want here:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/info_glance/petroleum.html
Finally, the crack spreads are very tight right now, and have been for quite a few months. Wholesale prices of gasoline will not fall much unless, and until, there's some easing of crude input prices. Otherwise there's going to be a lot of refinery mainentance shutdowns as they take them offline because there's no money to be made.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=675 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=Title1 align=middle bgColor=#a8c7e6>U.S. Finished Motor Gasoline Ending Stocks (Thousand Barrels)</TD></TR><TR><TD height=2></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=675 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#0066cc><TH class=G2>Year</TH><TH class=G>Jan</TH><TH class=G>Feb</TH><TH class=G>Mar</TH><TH class=G>Apr</TH><TH class=G>May</TH><TH class=G>Jun</TH><TH class=G>Jul</TH><TH class=G>Aug</TH><TH class=G>Sep</TH><TH class=G>Oct</TH><TH class=G>Nov</TH><TH class=G>Dec</TH></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1981</TD><TD class=B3>226,603</TD><TD class=B3>229,921</TD><TD class=B3>232,430</TD><TD class=B3>223,352</TD><TD class=B3>212,683</TD><TD class=B3>194,008</TD><TD class=B3>185,703</TD><TD class=B3>188,643</TD><TD class=B3>190,731</TD><TD class=B3>190,500</TD><TD class=B3>200,643</TD><TD class=B3>203,469</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1982</TD><TD class=B3>213,268</TD><TD class=B3>208,450</TD><TD class=B3>198,108</TD><TD class=B3>178,597</TD><TD class=B3>173,111</TD><TD class=B3>177,139</TD><TD class=B3>182,667</TD><TD class=B3>185,167</TD><TD class=B3>191,102</TD><TD class=B3>192,412</TD><TD class=B3>189,380</TD><TD class=B3>194,498</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1983</TD><TD class=B3>207,212</TD><TD class=B3>206,531</TD><TD class=B3>182,723</TD><TD class=B3>182,801</TD><TD class=B3>185,376</TD><TD class=B3>182,864</TD><TD class=B3>189,846</TD><TD class=B3>184,842</TD><TD class=B3>189,316</TD><TD class=B3>187,092</TD><TD class=B3>196,022</TD><TD class=B3>185,503</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1984</TD><TD class=B3>185,546</TD><TD class=B3>196,651</TD><TD class=B3>202,120</TD><TD class=B3>207,141</TD><TD class=B3>210,404</TD><TD class=B3>204,143</TD><TD class=B3>199,736</TD><TD class=B3>185,867</TD><TD class=B3>194,102</TD><TD class=B3>193,039</TD><TD class=B3>198,538</TD><TD class=B3>205,192</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=13 height=5></TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1985</TD><TD class=B3>198,358</TD><TD class=B3>189,190</TD><TD class=B3>185,640</TD><TD class=B3>181,808</TD><TD class=B3>181,080</TD><TD class=B3>186,248</TD><TD class=B3>192,065</TD><TD class=B3>188,122</TD><TD class=B3>187,449</TD><TD class=B3>180,152</TD><TD class=B3>183,260</TD><TD class=B3>190,308</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1986</TD><TD class=B3>201,067</TD><TD class=B3>205,429</TD><TD class=B3>184,010</TD><TD class=B3>173,858</TD><TD class=B3>187,813</TD><TD class=B3>195,770</TD><TD class=B3>189,911</TD><TD class=B3>187,337</TD><TD class=B3>195,993</TD><TD class=B3>184,446</TD><TD class=B3>190,451</TD><TD class=B3>194,242</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1987</TD><TD class=B3>210,603</TD><TD class=B3>206,564</TD><TD class=B3>204,970</TD><TD class=B3>200,989</TD><TD class=B3>195,911</TD><TD class=B3>192,569</TD><TD class=B3>188,878</TD><TD class=B3>187,987</TD><TD class=B3>191,190</TD><TD class=B3>181,833</TD><TD class=B3>188,069</TD><TD class=B3>188,811</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1988</TD><TD class=B3>200,798</TD><TD class=B3>202,985</TD><TD class=B3>194,401</TD><TD class=B3>190,135</TD><TD class=B3>188,817</TD><TD class=B3>174,864</TD><TD class=B3>179,442</TD><TD class=B3>183,505</TD><TD class=B3>182,671</TD><TD class=B3>180,361</TD><TD class=B3>183,911</TD><TD class=B3>189,852</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1989</TD><TD class=B3>205,714</TD><TD class=B3>203,744</TD><TD class=B3>189,135</TD><TD class=B3>188,474</TD><TD class=B3>183,436</TD><TD class=B3>178,028</TD><TD class=B3>190,110</TD><TD class=B3>182,051</TD><TD class=B3>185,579</TD><TD class=B3>182,585</TD><TD class=B3>185,016</TD><TD class=B3>177,053</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=13 height=5></TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1990</TD><TD class=B3>196,312</TD><TD class=B3>201,032</TD><TD class=B3>185,548</TD><TD class=B3>184,188</TD><TD class=B3>178,337</TD><TD class=B3>175,546</TD><TD class=B3>179,673</TD><TD class=B3>172,436</TD><TD class=B3>187,765</TD><TD class=B3>180,187</TD><TD class=B3>176,940</TD><TD class=B3>180,621</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1991</TD><TD class=B3>185,651</TD><TD class=B3>178,586</TD><TD class=B3>171,264</TD><TD class=B3>169,260</TD><TD class=B3>172,196</TD><TD class=B3>176,997</TD><TD class=B3>171,507</TD><TD class=B3>171,718</TD><TD class=B3>177,580</TD><TD class=B3>166,593</TD><TD class=B3>173,430</TD><TD class=B3>181,708</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1992</TD><TD class=B3>191,134</TD><TD class=B3>190,504</TD><TD class=B3>181,876</TD><TD class=B3>183,486</TD><TD class=B3>185,776</TD><TD class=B3>188,066</TD><TD class=B3>180,357</TD><TD class=B3>166,518</TD><TD class=B3>168,305</TD><TD class=B3>167,047</TD><TD class=B3>176,572</TD><TD class=B3>177,565</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1993</TD><TD class=B3>197,765</TD><TD class=B3>201,926</TD><TD class=B3>188,984</TD><TD class=B3>183,950</TD><TD class=B3>186,841</TD><TD class=B3>184,191</TD><TD class=B3>176,754</TD><TD class=B3>166,735</TD><TD class=B3>171,188</TD><TD class=B3>175,583</TD><TD class=B3>182,944</TD><TD class=B3>187,051</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1994</TD><TD class=B3>194,077</TD><TD class=B3>186,204</TD><TD class=B3>175,639</TD><TD class=B3>176,415</TD><TD class=B3>179,046</TD><TD class=B3>176,873</TD><TD class=B3>172,932</TD><TD class=B3>167,589</TD><TD class=B3>169,244</TD><TD class=B3>161,678</TD><TD class=B3>176,564</TD><TD class=B3>175,859</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=13 height=5></TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1995</TD><TD class=B3>182,724</TD><TD class=B3>179,961</TD><TD class=B3>167,835</TD><TD class=B3>167,056</TD><TD class=B3>167,149</TD><TD class=B3>163,493</TD><TD class=B3>165,970</TD><TD class=B3>154,587</TD><TD class=B3>158,884</TD><TD class=B3>155,607</TD><TD class=B3>155,628</TD><TD class=B3>161,277</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1996</TD><TD class=B3>168,723</TD><TD class=B3>168,439</TD><TD class=B3>158,304</TD><TD class=B3>159,759</TD><TD class=B3>161,804</TD><TD class=B3>163,829</TD><TD class=B3>163,661</TD><TD class=B3>154,872</TD><TD class=B3>161,335</TD><TD class=B3>149,059</TD><TD class=B3>150,719</TD><TD class=B3>156,990</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1997</TD><TD class=B3>164,732</TD><TD class=B3>161,529</TD><TD class=B3>153,876</TD><TD class=B3>151,780</TD><TD class=B3>158,080</TD><TD class=B3>163,737</TD><TD class=B3>150,899</TD><TD class=B3>149,624</TD><TD class=B3>157,862</TD><TD class=B3>157,907</TD><TD class=B3>161,576</TD><TD class=B3>166,357</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1998</TD><TD class=B3>174,306</TD><TD class=B3>173,116</TD><TD class=B3>166,816</TD><TD class=B3>168,177</TD><TD class=B3>173,898</TD><TD class=B3>177,298</TD><TD class=B3>172,067</TD><TD class=B3>167,396</TD><TD class=B3>163,928</TD><TD class=B3>159,952</TD><TD class=B3>167,538</TD><TD class=B3>171,796</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>1999</TD><TD class=B3>183,211</TD><TD class=B3>179,405</TD><TD class=B3>169,246</TD><TD class=B3>171,277</TD><TD class=B3>176,630</TD><TD class=B3>173,292</TD><TD class=B3>164,616</TD><TD class=B3>159,662</TD><TD class=B3>162,348</TD><TD class=B3>161,397</TD><TD class=B3>163,552</TD><TD class=B3>154,093</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=13 height=5></TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2000</TD><TD class=B3>165,305</TD><TD class=B3>156,430</TD><TD class=B3>157,121</TD><TD class=B3>160,618</TD><TD class=B3>162,238</TD><TD class=B3>164,526</TD><TD class=B3>164,620</TD><TD class=B3>151,042</TD><TD class=B3>154,235</TD><TD class=B3>147,379</TD><TD class=B3>156,714</TD><TD class=B3>153,004</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2001</TD><TD class=B3>158,674</TD><TD class=B3>154,584</TD><TD class=B3>144,675</TD><TD class=B3>150,292</TD><TD class=B3>160,088</TD><TD class=B3>169,394</TD><TD class=B3>162,300</TD><TD class=B3>150,584</TD><TD class=B3>158,038</TD><TD class=B3>160,223</TD><TD class=B3>161,235</TD><TD class=B3>161,459</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2002</TD><TD class=B3>169,671</TD><TD class=B3>165,513</TD><TD class=B3>159,832</TD><TD class=B3>167,010</TD><TD class=B3>168,320</TD><TD class=B3>167,565</TD><TD class=B3>164,814</TD><TD class=B3>157,333</TD><TD class=B3>157,359</TD><TD class=B3>148,224</TD><TD class=B3>158,046</TD><TD class=B3>161,902</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2003</TD><TD class=B3>157,207</TD><TD class=B3>151,082</TD><TD class=B3>144,680</TD><TD class=B3>151,430</TD><TD class=B3>155,207</TD><TD class=B3>152,998</TD><TD class=B3>150,053</TD><TD class=B3>145,212</TD><TD class=B3>146,118</TD><TD class=B3>140,398</TD><TD class=B3>146,280</TD><TD class=B3>146,884</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2004</TD><TD class=B3>138,650</TD><TD class=B3>133,499</TD><TD class=B3>132,089</TD><TD class=B3>133,127</TD><TD class=B3>137,200</TD><TD class=B3>140,218</TD><TD class=B3>140,525</TD><TD class=B3>137,945</TD><TD class=B3>135,692</TD><TD class=B3>138,420</TD><TD class=B3>141,474</TD><TD class=B3>143,204</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=13 height=5></TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2005</TD><TD class=B3>145,645</TD><TD class=B3>146,376</TD><TD class=B3>136,404</TD><TD class=B3>141,088</TD><TD class=B3>140,704</TD><TD class=B3>140,939</TD><TD class=B3>133,560</TD><TD class=B3>122,533</TD><TD class=B3>127,331</TD><TD class=B3>131,287</TD><TD class=B3>135,441</TD><TD class=B3>135,808</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2006</TD><TD class=B3>142,175</TD><TD class=B3>137,882</TD><TD class=B3>124,152</TD><TD class=B3>115,411</TD><TD class=B3>121,471</TD><TD class=B3>119,148</TD><TD class=B3>117,930</TD><TD class=B3>116,560</TD><TD class=B3>120,495</TD><TD class=B3>112,819</TD><TD class=B3>113,798</TD><TD class=B3>116,097</TD></TR><TR><TD class=B4>2007</TD><TD class=B3>124,990</TD><TD class=B3>115,694</TD><TD class=B3>108,821</TD><TD class=B3>108,458</TD><TD class=B3>114,720</TD><TD class=B3>116,702</TD><TD class=B3>114,409</TD><TD class=B3>110,671</TD><TD class=B3>112,274</TD><TD class=B3>107,710</TD><TD class=B3>108,799</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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