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Slimprofits
08-11-09, 05:07 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aX39_VW6pf3U

By David Wilson

Aug. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. economy may be just as sluggish during the next 20 years as Japan’s economy was in the last 20, according to Comstock Partners, a money manager founded and run by Charles Minter.

Stimulus programs and a surging money supply aren’t likely to “solve a problem of excess debt generation that resulted from greed and living way beyond our means,” the firm wrote yesterday in an unsigned report on its Web site. “We could wind up with a lost couple of decades.”

The CHART OF THE DAY shows U.S. total debt and gross domestic product since 1952, along with the ratio between them, based on data compiled by Bloomberg. The ratio rose in the first quarter to 372 percent even as household borrowing dropped for a second straight quarter, an unprecedented streak.

The U.S. is headed for “a deleveraging period” in which the amount of so-called private debt, including consumer borrowing, collapses as government borrowing explodes, Comstock wrote.

Assuming that private borrowers pay down debt at the same pace as they did in Japan after its 1980s economic bubble burst, the savings rate will climb to about 10 percent in 2018, the report said. The estimate was made in a study by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco that Comstock cited. It’s more than double the 4.6 percent rate for June.

Citing the study in addition to its own research, Comstock wrote that reduced borrowing may curtail growth in U.S. consumer spending by 0.75 percentage point annually on average during the next nine years.

http://www.comstockfunds.com/default.aspx?act=Newsletter.aspx&category=SpecialReport&newsletterid=1473&menugroup=Home&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2009/el2009-16.html

touchring
08-11-09, 10:07 AM
How would the scenario in japan and the usa be alike? To start with, japan doesn't have that extent of poverty. Secondly, american consumers still spend when they are broke. :D

doom&gloom
08-11-09, 01:48 PM
Not when they can't get credit anymore!

GoldMiner
06-14-14, 02:19 PM
We have to struggle to live as well as the generation before us, the entire financial system and capitalist model is capsizing.

It's scary to hear that future generations might have to struggle a lot more, will probably have to learn producing their own food. While, we've wasted and wasted and entertained, polluted and created debt.

Where did all come from?

Touchring is right, the US consumers keep spending even when they're broke!

The Japanese are making economies and working hard even when they're prosperous!

jk
06-14-14, 02:48 PM
unfortunately, or fortunately depending your pov, minter and comstock have been permabears since - iirc - the 1980's or '90s at the latest. so their negatively slanted predictions don't have much credibility for me.