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D-Mack
07-18-09, 04:33 AM
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Faber: Next Stimulus Will Be Worse

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:46 PM

By: Julie Crawshaw Article Font Size




Some economists think that another bubble is what’s needed to get the economy moving again.



Gloom, Boom and Doom publisher Marc Faber said this is ridiculous, and that the Federal Reserve — which he holds responsible for creating the housing bubble — wants to do it all over again.



The central bank should not encourage excessive credit growth, Faber tells Moneynews.com's Dan Mangru in an exclusive interview.


Between 2000 and 2007 the total U.S. credit market debt increased at five times the rate of nominal gross domestic product.


Unfortunately, Faber said, the next bubble is already here. This time it’s government spending and fiscal deficits that Faber thinks will double the government’s debt during the next six years or less.


“The U.S. government is largely deranged,” he said. “The private sector is the dynamic one, and that’s why I object tremendously against building up fiscal deficits because (they) shift economic activity into unproductive government instead of leaving it in the private sector.”


Another stimulus package would only make matters worse.


“In the Depression, they had one stimulus after another and it didn’t help,” Faber said. “What helped was World War II.”

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http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/federal_reserve/2009/07/15/235992.html?s=al&promo_code=837A-1

don
07-18-09, 08:41 AM
“In the Depression, they had one stimulus after another and it didn’t help,” Faber said. “What helped was World War II.”

What helped was the US won. It didn't work out so well for the rest of the industrial world until the early 70s, when they had rebuilt and caught up, subsequently setting the US on FIRE.

LargoWinch
07-19-09, 08:43 AM
Some more recent clips of Faber for those interested (July 18):

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D-Mack
07-19-09, 11:35 AM
Thanx, you included one clip twice on Real Estate and Gold


The last quote was heavy

"
Nothing has been solved, if you look at how the system works, the derivatives markets, how banks operate, the profits at Goldman Sachs

... Nothing against Goldman Sachs ....

But usually a major crisis like we had should clean the system, and nothing has been cleaned. It's gotten worse .... the big crisis will yet come, it will be huge it will be a total collapse,.. a total collapse ... it will be wonderful."

D-Mack
07-19-09, 11:35 AM
“In the Depression, they had one stimulus after another and it didn’t help,” Faber said. “What helped was World War II.”

What helped was the US won. It didn't work out so well for the rest of the industrial world until the early 70s, when they had rebuilt and caught up, subsequently setting the US on FIRE.


Wasn't the recovery in countries like Germany quicker with the Marshall Plan ?

don
07-19-09, 02:39 PM
Wasn't the recovery in countries like Germany quicker with the Marshall Plan ?

Absolutely. The US learned some big lessons from the post WW1 era. In the Great War the US was not a formal Ally of Britain and France, it was an associate nation. The difference is the US didn't pool its resources with the others, calling the rest even. (Britain and France paying in 3 years blood and treasure in return for US financial aid) Instead the US was out of any post-war retributions but kept the bills on Britain and France. This was in keeping with the US goal of surpassing the world's #1 financial power, England. While pressuring these two, England in particular, to pay their debts, the US, through the Dawes Plan, lent assistance to Germany to get out of its hyperinflation. It worked but was trumped by the Great Depression and the second phase of Europe's Great German War.

Things were a bit different following WW2. England was now physically and fiscally exhausted. The industrial base of the rest of Europe had been virtually destroyed. Tremendous productive powers had been developed in the US. 9 out of 10 economists forecast a return to the Great Depression. By re-building a foreign market quickly this didn't happed and enormous benefits were reaped. Having an alternative, militarily victorious world system, the Soviet Union, holding half of Europe was another big factor in US re-building decision making.

LargoWinch
07-19-09, 06:45 PM
Thanx, you included one clip twice on Real Estate and Gold



no problem and clips now updated for no repetition. ;)

D-Mack
07-20-09, 11:32 AM
no problem and clips now updated for no repetition. ;)

It happens, looks like this was omitted
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And I found another clip which seems to belong to the same show
(It has some minor sound problems)

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